How Goob was almost tied into Jodi Vance’s death and speculating on whether or not DNP played a role
In the latest episode of The Goob Show, host John Dorsey, known as Goob, delved into several pressing topics impacting the bodybuilding community. From the tragic death of Jodi Vance at the Arnold Sports Festival to Arnold Schwarzenegger’s critique of the Men’s Physique division, and controversies involving prominent figures like Bob Cicherillo and Nick Walker, Goob provided in-depth analysis and candid opinions.
Here’s a brief breakdown of the topics discussed in this week’s episode:
- Is Goob tied to the athlete Jodi Vance who tragically died at the Arnold Sports Festival?
- Goob defends Arnold Schwarzenegger’s critical comments on the Men’s Physique divison.
- Goob’s take on Bob Cicherillo vs Nick Walker.
- Goob exposing the man who eats raw meat.
- A fake down syndrome filter used on stolen bodybuilding photos?
- Goob exposes the net carb loophole that has food companies lying to you.
- Introducing the Indian Goob.
- Calling out social media influencers and coaches who put IFBB Pro in their profiles… but never earned their pro card.
You can watch the full episode of The Goob Show above. Keep reading to get an in-depth breakdown of the topics discussed. Let’s jump in.
Tragic Death of Jodi Vance at Arnold Sports Festival Expo
The bodybuilding community was recently shaken by the untimely death of 20-year-old bodybuilder and coach Jodi Vance during the Arnold Sports Festival in Columbus, Ohio. Vance, who was attending the event in a coaching capacity, collapsed near the Sonesta Hotel, the event’s venue. Despite being rushed to Grant Medical Center, she was pronounced dead due to severe dehydration leading to cardiac arrest.
Goob addressed the speculation surrounding Vance’s death, particularly rumors linking her demise to the use of dangerous substances like DNP (2,4-Dinitrophenol). DNP is known for its rapid fat-burning properties but carries severe health risks, including hyperthermia and potential fatality.
Goob shared his personal experience with DNP, recounting how it made him feel internally overheated even in cold weather and caused his urine to appear unusually colored, leading to a general sense of malaise. He questioned the rationale behind using such hazardous substances when safer, albeit slower, methods like proper dieting could achieve similar results.
Further insights revealed that Vance had been using diuretics to appear leaner at the expo, despite not competing. Her coach, Justin Mihaly, disclosed that Vance had been consuming dangerous substances without his knowledge or approval, aiming to enhance her physique for the event.
Goob criticized this mentality, emphasizing that taking such risks merely to impress peers at a non-competitive event is both pointless and perilous.
The discussion also touched on the legal implications for coaches who might advise athletes to use dangerous substances. While Goob isn’t a legal expert, he opined that if evidence exists of a coach recommending harmful substances that lead to an athlete’s death, legal action against the coach could be plausible.
Goob stressed the responsibility that individuals with platforms have when discussing substances, techniques, or actions. He highlighted the ease with which people can be influenced and the importance of clearly communicating the real dangers associated with certain practices to prevent the spread of harmful misinformation.
Arnold Schwarzenegger’s Critique of Men’s Physique Division
The episode also covered Arnold Schwarzenegger’s recent criticism of the Men’s Physique division, particularly his disdain for the long board shorts worn by competitors. Schwarzenegger labeled the attire as “bogus,” arguing that it hides the athletes’ well-developed thighs and hampers the holistic judging of their physiques.
Goob found it amusing that Ali Bilal, a prominent Men’s Physique competitor, announced a boycott of future Arnold Classic events in response to Schwarzenegger’s comments. He noted that Schwarzenegger’s criticism isn’t new; the bodybuilding legend has previously expressed his lack of support for the Men’s Physique division and has a history of candidly sharing his opinions, often “busting balls.” Goob suggested that the current uproar is unwarranted, given Schwarzenegger’s longstanding views.
Vlad, Goob’s co-host, pointed out that Schwarzenegger has also critiqued other divisions, such as the Men’s Open, for deviating from traditional bodybuilding aesthetics. They agreed that Schwarzenegger’s frankness could prompt necessary evaluations of bodybuilding’s future trajectory.
Bob Cicherillo vs. Nick Walker Online Feud
A notable segment of the podcast addressed the online feud between Bob Cicherillo, the athletes’ representative for the IFBB Pro League, and top bodybuilder Nick Walker. Cicherillo publicly criticized Walker’s physique, predicting that he wouldn’t win the Mr. Olympia title. Walker retorted dismissively, questioning Cicherillo’s relevance. The exchange escalated, with Cicherillo responding that he might be the one announcing Walker’s eighth-place finish at the next Olympia, to which Walker reacted by wearing a shirt emblazoned with “Who’s Bob Cicherillo? Eighth Place.”
Goob remarked that it would be ironic if Walker indeed placed eighth, envisioning Cicherillo elongating the announcement for dramatic effect. However, he opined that such rivalries inject excitement into a sport that can often seem monotonous due to its repetitive nature of training and dieting. He believes that these dynamics are beneficial for both fans and the league.
Exposure of Dangerous Practices: Raw Meat Diet Advocacy
The podcast also shed light on the alarming trend of individuals promoting raw meat diets. Goob discussed Scott Lives, a social media influencer who advocates consuming raw meat, claiming it cured him of various illnesses. Lives has amassed a following, influencing others to adopt this hazardous diet.
Goob uncovered that one of Lives’ followers, operating under the pseudonym Aajonus Vanderplantz, maintained a blog filled with dubious health claims, including assertions that eating raw meat prevents aging and that rabies doesn’t exist. This individual has been misleading vulnerable people into adopting dangerous practices.
A concerning incident involved Lives’ girlfriend, who developed bacterial meningitis, a condition linked to consuming raw meat. Despite this, Lives denied any connection between her illness and the diet, continuing to promote raw meat consumption.
Goob expressed deep concern over Lives’ genuine belief in his advocacy, highlighting the peril it poses as it influences others to engage in risky behaviors without financial motives.
Exploitation Tactics: Fake Down Syndrome Claims
Another disturbing trend discussed was the exploitation of Down syndrome for personal gain. Goob discovered accounts where individuals used filters to alter their appearance, claiming to be bodybuilders with Down syndrome to garner sympathy and amass followers. These accounts then directed followers to OnlyFans links, monetizing the deceit.
Goob hopes that exposing these fraudulent tactics will lead to widespread condemnation and the eventual shutdown of these accounts. He emphasized that such deception not only misleads followers but also disrespects individuals who genuinely live with Down syndrome.
Net Carb Misinformation and Debate
Goob also tackled the issue of misleading nutrition labels, particularly regarding net carbs. He explained how companies manipulate labeling loopholes to underreport calorie content, making their products seem healthier than they actually are.
The debate stems from the concept that fiber should be subtracted from total carbohydrates since it isn’t absorbed the same way. While the principle is valid, Goob argued that food companies exploit it by misclassifying certain ingredients as fiber to justify lower calorie claims.
He used an example of a “70-calorie bagel” that, in reality, likely contains closer to 200 calories. He clarified that while net carbs themselves aren’t inherently deceptive, the way they’re manipulated by businesses creates misinformation that misleads consumers.
The Goob of India
Goob also discussed an Indian bodybuilding influencer who modeled his content after Goob, even using the same catchphrase: “Welcome to the show.” Initially, Goob was flattered by the imitation, but the situation took a turn when the influencer posted an apology video after exposing a fitness figure for using Photoshop.
Goob learned that the influencer had been legally threatened into retracting his claims, despite the evidence proving his allegations were true. Frustrated by the lack of courage, Goob publicly called him out, stating that backing down under pressure damages the credibility of bodybuilding transparency advocates. Although he admitted to being harsh, he felt it was necessary to maintain the integrity of his platform.
Fake IFBB Pro Claims
Goob concluded the episode by exposing several individuals falsely claiming IFBB Pro status on social media. He noted that while earning an IFBB Pro card has become easier due to the increased number of qualifiers, outright fabricating credentials to appear more credible is deceptive and unethical.
He explained that many of these frauds use the title to attract naive clients for coaching services, misleading amateurs into believing they’re working with a legitimate professional. By calling out these imposters, Goob aims to maintain honesty within the bodybuilding industry.
Wrap Up
Goob’s latest episode touched on a variety of important topics, from the dangers of performance-enhancing substances and deceptive social media practices to high-profile bodybuilding controversies. His blunt, unfiltered approach continues to expose misinformation and highlight the realities of the fitness industry. As bodybuilding evolves, discussions like these play a crucial role in ensuring transparency, integrity, and the safety of those within the community.
You can watch the latest episode of The Goob Show at the top of this article. And make sure to check back every other week for new episodes on the Generation Iron Fitness Network or wherever podcasts are downloaded.
