Kai Greene gives some insight into Phil Heath and Big Ramy at the 2017 Olympia.
So, the 2017 Olympia is already in our rear view mirror and for some individuals it means talking about the event is fastly becoming a tired topic. Well, to those people we say you just haven’t been looking for fresh takes on the the situation. There was so much controversy at the event that it’s easy to think that many people in the bodybuilding world had their own opinions on the Olympia. One such individual is bodybuilding veteran Kai Greene.
Facing off against Phil Heath a number of times and even outpointing him on a few occasions, Kai Greene has his fair share of insight on his old rival’s physique. In the video courtesy of Fazi Fitness, Kai Greene discusses the differences of Phil Heath and runner-up Big Ramy’s physiques and the strategies that either man need to employ to outduel the other.
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Lmao…yes lets hear how Ramy can win from the guy who couldnt beat Phil and quit because he couldn’t win lmao
Ramy needs better conditioning, that will probably cost him some size from his weight now, he can still be bigger than Phil with better conditioning.
Oh i agree…im just laughing at the fact that the man who i felt cpuld have beat phil eventually quit and now knows how to beat him
Escobar what do you know??
Just because i am fat means that i dont know the sport? I know enough. Im no pro by all means but i have been around this sport. I know competitors in this sport and was a huge fan of Greene for a long time until he started acting up and not wanting to compete against Phil anymore
Fernando Escobar I honestly think the IFBB is going to give Phil his 10 sandows unless someone actually dominates him. There are some aesthetics that Kai did not have that Phil did. Constantly losing to him is a waste of his time when he’s actually doing better now than the runner ups.
I think Kai could have won if not last year def this year. But we will never know because it will never happen
Banele Mdluli Maybe Fernando Escobar was a fan of bodybuilding since he was younger and still likes to keep up with it? Dont judge
Thanks Nick Boutros it just so happens i competed as a strongman and am friends with bodybuilders. I dont let rude comments bother me
It’s easy to get caught up in our society today, in the “If you’re not #1, you’re nothing” mentality. I think a big reason why Kai is so admired is the fact that he’s more than just an Olympia-Level Bodybuilder. He has talents and charisma that can make him successful in almost any other profession, especially since he’s so well known now. We can all speculate that he quit only because he couldn’t beat Phil, but he has never admitted to this. What he did vaguely elude to in a pretty obscure video I dug up, was that he realized he would have to expose his health to risks that he was certain would take many years off his life. I’m not a drug guru, but he may have been referring to more aggressive insulin protocols(which just killed a top 5 competitor) or maybe the new myostatin drugs that we keep hearing buzz about, from the mid-east. Regardless, I’m not Team Kai or anything, I just think he had a great run but he knows he has bigger things ahead then risking his life for a Sandow….
Matt C McLaughlin i see where you are coming from.
It also seemed like the video was titled very inaccurately too. Because he seemed to be advising Phil, not Ramy. “Phil is in a precarious position, he needs to do x,y,z, otherwise Ramy could beat him”
Not accurate. He quit because the O is BS and he is making bank doing his own thing. Ramy can’t beat Phil even though he and Kai both have better physiques. Politics as usual.
Dude he would of beat Phil if he kept going
Mike James Compton i feel the same way…i dont think phil looked great this year. But politics might have it different
In the later years Kai was better but politics allowed Phil to win, just like this year. And Phils gut is getting crazy.
Do u even lift dude ? He never quit u need to hit the gym and lose some pounds before u compare Kai to Phil
Kai Greene looked better then phil and should of been 2014 mr olympia, he was cheated big-time. Thats why he wont do the olympia cause of the politics in the ifbb
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Don’t really care what he has to say anymore. If he knew how, we’d be seeing him compete next year
Phil will at least tie or beat the record. If he deserves it or not. Just my gut instinct with how the IFBB is working these days
Arnold is making a comeback and beat phil
Yeah that’s believable
Kai didn’t quit because he couldn’t beat Phil. He was late on signing for the O and then decided to sign last minute bcuz personal reasons and they denied him that year. Thats why he quit
Kai being a pussy for not showing showmanship…come on dude you have nearly beated Phil heath 3 times… please be strong hearted and compete once again…
Ramy is the clear winner
Nick I like your comments and more over Kai beat Phil on several occasions but because of politics in Mr Olympia judging they’re always giving it to Phil.
But in reality Phil has been beaten on several occasions by different people,the likes of Dexter that time they gave him 2nd place,Kai beat him 3 times in a row but they were placing him 2nd on all those occasions and this time around Big Remy beat him hands down but they’re keeping on playing their politics
In fact they should change the name from Mr Olympia to Mr Las Vegas, since it nolonger has any significance
Does he suggest that Ramy fuck a grapefruit to get a competitive advantage? Because if not, there’s no point in listening to this crybaby quitter.
Kai gave the most realistic perspective on this phil vs ramy nonsense. Phil haters are trying to make it a big deal, and talking shit about him. Phil is the winner, get over your hate. Talking about the bubble gut, just look at the pumping room video, you will see nearly all of the bodybuilders who were competing had it, but they successfully hide that during the posing; Phil failed there.
Are you serious?
^Yes. Do you you have anything to say about that ?
What would he kno about takin the next step to beat Phil??
Why isn’t Kai Greene competing anymore?
I listened to Kai talk for 5 minutes and say nothing
You people do realize that kai would never win because of politics right? Kai could beat him pose for pose and still lose. Kai decided why waste time and just go get more money then the O could offer in the long run.
True.. Kai got sick of politics no shit. Why bother if they already picked the winner well before the event started
Mr. Olympia is as scripted as Wwe Pro wrestling
As always Kai says a lot but nothing.”Ramy is a big guy, Phil can become to small from conditioning, Ronnie was a big guy, Winkler was present ….” ♂️….blah blah blah….you’re all over the place and still a quitter. FACTS
Kai and Ramy two peeeps who’ll always be no. 2 as long as Phil is competing 🙂
Kai ramy this two are clear winner
Can’t beat Phil when he has the IFBB and Flex behind him. Kai knows this. There’s no good in beating a dead horse. I Don’t think anyone likes the perpetual second place as Jay was to Ronnie for all those years. Ramy made Phil look like a 212 class. The world seen that and have taken note. Arnold Classic is the competition to be in these days. Mr Olympian lost a lot of credibility this year.
Man what a load of rubbish. When it came to gane day phil had way better conditioning and rammy just couldnt keep up cause size wont win you that Mr O
Jesse Hawkes I and many other bodybuilding commentators would not agree with you. So “rubbish” to you. Lol
Such a sore loser comment. Ask any great bodybuilder or guru and they will all say Phil won because he was better.
Pete Lucas all Phil fans are out in anger. Only a blind obsessed fan would admit to the sheer size difference. Even the Flex commentators remark about Phil’s mid section being out of shape.
it’s totally unfair in 2017 mr Olympia
according to physique big ramy is a winner……
Lol clown
Phil Heath wil win 10 times mr olympia
Jason Watto Watson
So I watch later
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Joshua Figueira
Ramy beat Phil next year…
Good
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Ramy needs a ticker back
Brent Crook
Phil will break the record of most Mr O wins.. after that than a new Mr O will take over.
Allen Sizemore
“How to beat Phil Heath by the runner up who repeatedly failed to beat him.”
I love Kai..Never really liked Phil, I just think he doesnt have that inspirational touch which has characterized former Mr. O’s. He even blocked me on Instagram, he does that often haha. BUT, his physique is just amazing. Kai will never have a better physique than him At this level, genetics do play a huge role. No wonder he calls himself the gift.
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When I look the pictures you be like (they’ve robbed) Ramy but then I watch the videos , Phil is the top of the game even thou it was close
Did Kai Green Compete in the last several Mr. Olympias??
And yet has tips on how one can beat the current champion?
Does Kai green compete at all in a big circuit like the Mr. O, at all??
Just curious….
Kai should stick to dancing around in weird outfits, couldn’t beat Phil so just bashes everyone on Social Media. All respect lost for Kai!
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Agree with what Kai is expressing. Take the example of Frank Zane, pound for pound inch for inch 1 of the best ever. But on a today stage would get lost though his conditioning would be superior. We probably have reached a point where u just can’t compare the era’s. The game had changed too much.
It’s like everything else in life’s , times and things change. People just need to accept that.
Phill wont win next year. People are board with the Olympia not worth watching if its the Phill show.
Size this and size that… size kills aesthetics and wonderfull bodies.. size killed bodybuilding.. my opinion
Even arnold says that. Purely just size is taking away from everything arnie loves about it
KAI GREENE Is truthful
Phil had no business winning this year’s Olympia. The guys midsection looked like shit!
It’s not an abs and thighs contest. Still hard and conditioned, and he’s unbeatable from the back. Ramy wasn’t quite dialed in to win for me.
It should be the total package I believe. But ya I agree I though ramy should have had it. Politics
If anything Bonac was the most impressive guy on stage
Ya he looked great as well!
Just his height that went against him. But I think Phil keeps winning he’s the most complete.ramy can’t figure out who his best guru is.. is it Kuwait is it Chris Aceto? Guychanges coaches like his socks
Ya I agree. I just think Phil’s midsection looked awful. I think the old days of Arnold and zane looked the best imo
Thing is though the bigger you get the waist always grows man. I agree that was the worse it looked for Phil, but you don’t really see it on the poses Ramy can’t beat him on.
I know but just the extended gut now is just too much
2016 was great look for Phil. Now hrs had the surgery might be better again
Ya he looked great in 2016!
Had the hernia surgery done now, might help a bit. But it’s up to them to push him!
Ya I know it. Hopefully Kai makes a comeback
All open pros have the gut. Well I agree it does t look good, pointing out just pill for it…. come on
I’m just pointing out Phil because he won it. But ya alot do have it but some don’t
Mike facchini ‘s midsection looks like shit
Eat a dick you juice head clown!
Lol. Phil didn’t play the size game. Heath beats Ramy 10 times our of 10. Ramy needs to adjust to a consistent Heath. The idea that anyone thinks Ramy is remotely close to Heath is laughable. I had Ramy in 3rd l, behind Bonac. Ramy is Big, no doubt. But you add too much size & he fades away in conditioning. You take too much away (2016) and he looks stringy in comparison. Ramy is good, but he’ll never beat Heath.
Ramy looked amazing last year… You’re on crack. His conditioning needs a little work and he’ll dethrone an aging Heath
Lol. I would assume that you watched it online. There’s nothing that Ramy has on Heath; his size is all over the place. He has huge legs, but undersized calves. And while his upper body is good, he doesn’t come in good enough condition to dethrone Heath. Phil has won with straight firsts since he started his reign. Also, an aging Heath? Lol. Ramy looks at least 10 years older. I’ll watch Heath win his 8th from the Orleans Arena.
But he won , Kai ..go back to hair braiding
says a guy that will never be on Kai’s level. Man beat it
Who gives a fk what he says he’s not even an Olympian haha
He was only one point away from being one
Now he’s not even ranked haha has been
Cause he’s running his own supplement company and doing movie and TV roles and still trains hard out.
Phil’s 3D genetics are what keeps him on top… Kai needs to go away… he’s turning into luimarco… and no one likes him
Big Ramy clearly better delts and mid section. Phil has much better shaped quads.