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Can You Take DHEA And HGH While On TRT? | Victor Martinez Reacts

by Derek Dufour Published on Oct 18, 2023

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Victor Martinez shares advice on how to best supplement TRT treatment and opens up about drug testing in professional sports

The Generation Iron Podcast, hosted by Victor Martinez, Edwin Mejia Jr., and Vlad Yudin, recently delved into the world of bodybuilding, testosterone replacement therapy (TRT), peptides, drug testing, and steroids. In this recap, we’ll explore the key insights shared during the podcast and the implications of FDA’s classification of peptides as schedule 2 drugs.

Victor Martinez is currently in Croatia as he continues his travels with Busta Rhymes training across the world. Luckily, Victor was able to host the podcast via video call to talk about the latest events in bodybuilding – and share his opinion about recent developments. He also spends some time breaking down his advice for those looking to supplement TRT treatment for best (and safest) results.

Victor Martinez also debates with the GI crew about the drug testing in sports. With the recent news that UFC will be parting ways with the Anti-Doping Agency, is this a sign that drug testing is less important to leagues than headlining events and superstar athletes? Should all pro sports simply stop drug testing?

All questions are answered and opinions laid out to honestly in the latest episode of the Generation Iron Podcast. Let’s dive in.

 

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TRT and Supplementing with DHEA and HGH

A fan reached out with a question regarding the use of DHEA (Dehydroepiandrosterone) and human growth hormone (HGH) to complement their TRT regimen. Victor Martinez, a seasoned bodybuilder, endorsed the idea, emphasizing the potential benefits of using HGH alongside TRT. He also suggested that peptides could be an excellent addition to TRT therapy, as many hormone clinics offer comprehensive packages combining these therapies for better health and effectiveness.

Of course, Victor Martinez also emphasizes that these choices should be consulted with a medical professional. For those already on TRT treatment, they will be receiving regular blood tests to ensure that their levels are ideal during TRT treatment. Adding other substances into the mix will effect those results – and may affect how a doctor reacts and alters your TRT treatment.

Ultimately, TRT is meant to be a treatment that brings your testosterone levels back to normal. It is not meant to be a way to boost muscle mass. So for those who want to supplement TRT with DHEA or HGH, should do so via the proper channels and have them prescribed when a medical professional feels it is necessary.

Peptides Classification as Schedule 2 Drugs

The podcast also discussed the FDA’s classification of peptides as schedule 2 drugs, raising concerns about the lack of research in the health industry. Victor Martinez believes this classification is due to the FDA’s limited understanding of peptides and their long-term effects.

Despite this classification, he does not anticipate a complete ban on peptides in the United States. Different states may adopt varying regulations, and individuals could purchase peptides from other states or resort to the black market. However, this raises concerns about oversight and product quality.

Mike O’Hearn has also discussed this topic at length with one of the leading Hormone Health Clinics in the country, Titan Medical. They covered all angles of the recent FDA decision. It’s a valuable watch for anyone who uses peptides or is interested in peptide treatment.

Should Pro Sports Stop Drug Testing?

The podcast highlighted the UFC’s recent decision to sever ties with the anti-doping agency, potentially signaling a shift in priorities. Victor Martinez suggested that the UFC prioritizes its financial interests over strict anti-doping measures, especially when dealing with high-profile athletes like Conor McGregor. Vlad Yudin echoed this sentiment, emphasizing the UFC’s focus on revenue.

This led to a debate about drug testing and the use of steroids in professional sports, drawing parallels with bodybuilding’s lenient approach to drug testing in the IFBB Pro league. Victor Martinez and Vlad Yudin debated whether all sports should stop testing for performance-enhancing drugs. While Victor argued that maintaining an even playing field is crucial, Vlad advocated for the idea that allowing steroid use levels the playing field.

Vlad points out that with current drug testing standards, there have been many athletes who used steroids successfully in pro sports – only to be caught long after. It’s clear that the playing field is not level currently with drug testing measures in place.

If drug testing was completely removed, then anyone can do whatever substance they feel is best for their success. This freedom of choice, in Vlad’s opinion, could potentially be a more even playing field than current pro sports have today.

However, Victor Martinez also points out that steroid use for recreational athletic purposes is illegal. So even if a league did not drug test, certain athletes would feel at a disadvantage if they did not want to break the law. Thus, without any form of drug regulations in pro sports – you still have an uneven playing field.

Conflict of Interest in Bodybuilding Coaching

Edwin Mejia Jr. introduced a unique aspect of bodybuilding where athletes training under the same coach may compete against each other. Is it strange to have athletes who will ultimately compete against each other trained by the same coach? Victor Martinez cited golf as a similar example, emphasizing that the ultimate outcome is determined on competition day.

Victor further points out that rival athletes training together can actually help push and motivate them to greater heights. They can play mind games with each other, see how hard the other one trains, and get a up close look at the person’s physique

In a recent example of Derek Lunsford training with Hadi Choopan, you have the current defending Mr. Olympia champion training with the man who got second place right below him. Victor Martinez wonders what Derek’s mindset was during that workout. Did he use it to gain a psychological advantage over the current champion? What opportunities can come from him standing and training side by side with the defending champion just 6 weeks before they face off?

Ultimately, Victor Martinez doesn’t see an issue or conflict of interest in one coach training multiple pro athletes who compete in the same event. The more athletes who succeed the better for the coach’s business and reputation. Victor also points out that at one point Charles Glass, a legendary coach in bodybuilding, was training four top athletes who all competed against each other at the Mr. Olympia.

Showcasing Physiques Pre-Competition

In relation to the above topic, Victor Martinez questioned the modern practice of bodybuilders revealing their physiques in the final weeks of contest prep. He recalled a time when bodybuilders like Dorian Yates kept their physiques hidden, creating an aura of mystery. This shift towards greater visibility may have implications for the competitive dynamics in the sport.

Even just 10 years ago, competitors like Phil Heath and Kai Greene would always be covered in baggy hoodies. The notion of giving physique updates three, two, or even one week out from competition is strange to Victor.

While clearly this is a sign of the times changing and adapting to social media, Victor Martinez wonders if this helps or hurts the athletes as they prep for competition.

Wrap Up

In summary, the Generation Iron Podcast provided insights into TRT, peptides, drug testing, and the use of steroids in the world of bodybuilding. The discussion also touched on the FDA’s classification of peptides as schedule 2 drugs and the UFC’s stance on anti-doping measures, emphasizing the influence of financial interests in professional sports. The podcast offered a comprehensive look at the current landscape of bodybuilding and its unique characteristics, such as coaches training athletes who compete against each other.

You can watch the full episode above. And don’t forget to check back every Tuesday for new episodes only on the Generation Iron Fitness Network or wherever podcasts are downloaded!

About Derek Dufour

Derek Dufour has been managing all digital operations on the Generation Iron Network for over six years. He currently manages a team of editors, writers, and designers to provide up-to-date content across the GI Network.

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